AHP Alpha Tig 200

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Thursday, September 05 2013, 01:46 AM
I found this forum from an ebay listing they had for their machine. I would like to know more information on the Alpha Tig 200 and any real world experience anyone may have to share.

Ebay Listing
Here is the listing i found online. looks like an impressive machine for a budget minded hobbyist like me. It is both AC/DC and even features pulse for around $800. Similair welders i looked at go for $2k+ for the same features. Im not doing this for a profession just want a reliable machine to do stuff for my own car.

I am skeptical about it because i know nothing about the brand. Their website really lacks and gives me a red flag vibe.
AHP Welds

I see the everlast machines have gotten very popular but wanted to know more about AHP.

Thanks everyone.
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    Thursday, September 05 2013, 05:30 AM - #permalink
    Welcome, and one of there Tech people is a member of this forum and when not on the road does come by.

    Here is a recent question and discussion on the machines that you might find useful.
    http://www.weld.com/index.php/Weekend-Warrior-Welding-Forum/question/ahp-welders.html
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    Thursday, September 05 2013, 08:56 AM - #permalink
    I have used one and really liked the way it ran. Just got one of my own last week. Will be posting a video or two soon.
    From the desk of Kevin Caron, where the answers are stranger than the questions!

    AHP Alpha Tig 200x Longevity ProMts 200 Everlast PowerTig 255EXT
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    Thursday, September 05 2013, 11:56 AM - #permalink
    Thanks guys for the replies. Its a great price for a hobbyist and has all the functions and features i would ever really need. Since im currently renting a house it doesnt have a 220v outlet so the 120 cord that is supplied is also a plus until i buy my own place and put 220 in the garage.
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    Tuesday, September 10 2013, 01:25 PM - #permalink
    Hi Freshda
    I just logged in and saw this post. You are correct the website is not up and running there are no compressors or generators listed in there and it is basically just a name at this point in time. I had actually asked to have some type of announcement on it for under Construction etc but as of yet I have not seen this. I am back in the office so I can see what can be done.
    As for the Tig Welder in question there is no doubt that it is user friendly as we have tried to make it this way.
    Having a fixed AC frequency while causing some possible disadvantages has a lot of benifets for the hobbiest and home enthusiast. The AC Balance is a must have and while this may cause a little confusion ( overheating tungsten ,balling up and a number of other issues ) it is well marked and I think intuitive to use.
    In a 4 t mode setting ( using a torch trigger ) the start and end amp times are controlled by the user with the micro on / off switch. So there is no need to have years of experience in deciding how long you want a specific start amp to last before switching to main amps. You simply release the trigger when you want the welding amps to kick in ,
    All this was made with the hobbies tin mind while still allowing a professional weld to take place.
    If you need to learn more you can reach us at 1 855 859 0233 ext 3
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    Tuesday, September 10 2013, 02:27 PM - #permalink
    Thank you for the reply. it seems pretty straight forward i was just worried because the site is not put together and being an Ebay listing you never know if its US or China shipping you the unit.

    So i take it there is some out sourcing in the unit (i understand even high end companies outsource although they do not try and confirm these statements). Do you have a US headquarters and are the machines tested in house from time to time or are they assembled in house? Sorry if you feel im asking personal questions about your products. Im just wanting to make sure that If i buy your product the company isnt going to close up and im with no future parts for the machine.

    I am highly interested in this machine and will be picking up around january. Hope Kevin can post more videos about it within this time.

    Thank You
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    Tuesday, September 10 2013, 05:20 PM - #permalink
    Your concerns are valid and a new name with no history behind makes it hard to judge how things will turn out.
    We have invested time ( a lot of time on my part) and money into tailoring this welder to what we believe is our market share and as such it has cost thousands in development to get to this point.
    It has been a slow process with the initial start of this project going back for more than a year , in fact I had three face to face meetings and numerous conference calls before a sample was even made. So yes we are very serious with making this a successful project.
    We have numerous parts in the Welders and the Inverter source is from a Company in Silicone Valley ,however I doubt very much that the IGBT ,s are manufactured in California as when I enquire I am simply told they come from one of several Country,s . We live in a global economy and this is not going to change.
    Now as for QC . This is where I come into things as my main priority is to develop and ensure quality is up to par. I am at the Factory in the South of China when these units are produced and I oversee both testing and build quality. Every unit is not only load bank tested but all parameters are measured in both 110 and 240 along with actual testing.
    With this in mind I have added a couple of photos that may be of interest.
    Here in the pictures you can see the numbers being documented per unit. The second picture shows the transformer for changing volts to 110v for readings .here you can see the work instructions posted at each work station. This ensures ISO standards are maintained and it makes my job easier.
    In this instance the workforce was allowed to wear casual clothing of there choosing due to the heat . When the weather is hot in the summer the work hours are from 8am till 11.30 and then 1.30 till 5pm a 2 hour lunch is taken for people to rest in that time frame. The factory has a difficult time understanding why I go back to testing at 12.15 or 12.30 when every one should be resting during this time . But we are not really used to having siestas here in North America so I find it hard to stop for so long.
    Just need to edit this a little . My pictures are out of sync from the description but I think it will be easy to sort through
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    Tuesday, September 10 2013, 11:11 PM - #permalink
    Thank you for the reply. I have to say that your post sold me on the unit. Good to see that Quality Control is being done of your product and you are overseeing this. The photos of your machines being tested and checked with the oscilloscopes are clear that these are tested. I look forward to purchasing my unit.
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    Tuesday, September 10 2013, 11:50 PM - #permalink
    Just fired mine up today. Love the tig!! Very smooth and easy to set up.

    I will try the arc function in the morning. Got some thick wall steel (3/8) so figured it would be a good test!

    Let you know what I think.....
    From the desk of Kevin Caron, where the answers are stranger than the questions!

    AHP Alpha Tig 200x Longevity ProMts 200 Everlast PowerTig 255EXT
    Miller Syncrowave 200 Millermatic 251
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    Friday, September 27 2013, 08:15 PM - #permalink
    Knew I was supposed to do something on the forum....

    Ran the AHP in stick mode on the 3/8 wall tubing and found a really nice machine!

    Tried to stick the electrode and could not do it! The anti-stick works very well!

    All in all a very nice machine..

    Here are my videos..



    From the desk of Kevin Caron, where the answers are stranger than the questions!

    AHP Alpha Tig 200x Longevity ProMts 200 Everlast PowerTig 255EXT
    Miller Syncrowave 200 Millermatic 251
    www.kevincaron.com
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    Monday, September 30 2013, 12:41 AM - #permalink
    Thank Kevin appreciate the video's. Cannot wait to purchase this machine got a lot stuff to fab :)
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    Tuesday, January 21 2014, 12:27 PM - #permalink
    Apologize for resurrecting this thread, but I can't find some answers to questions I have about this machine.

    1. Can you hook a water cooled torch to it?

    2. Can you stick weld in DCEP?

    Appreciate any assistance, and sorry if these have been answered. I'm not very good at searching.

    Thanks

    Terry
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    Tuesday, January 21 2014, 03:17 PM - #permalink
    Yes you can put a water cooled torch on this machine.

    Have to try the stick welder ....not sure.
    From the desk of Kevin Caron, where the answers are stranger than the questions!

    AHP Alpha Tig 200x Longevity ProMts 200 Everlast PowerTig 255EXT
    Miller Syncrowave 200 Millermatic 251
    www.kevincaron.com
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    Saturday, February 08 2014, 10:39 PM - #permalink
    This is a great post I to am new to the inverter TIG market. This looks like another one to consider. All these machines look great the hard part is to figure out which one is best for me. It would be neat to see a Hobby TIG shootout like APH vs. Longevity vs. Everlast vs. Eastwood and so on. Well it looks like it time to go back to You Tube and watch more reviews.:p
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    Thursday, February 20 2014, 01:39 PM - #permalink
    The AHP site still seems to be non functioning. No answer on the phone either. It seems like a great product, I am just wondering about support.

    I would really like an in depth manual. I don't think one exists for this machine. The best guides to date are the videos by Kevin and Mr. Tig. I am still trying to figure out the best set up for welding thin wall 4130 tubing.

    Back out to the shop to play with it some more!
    Alpha TIG 200X
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    Thursday, February 20 2014, 03:42 PM - #permalink
    Hmmm.....If those who are interested would do a search on this forum you would find several threads speaking directly and indirectly to AHP and their machine (now machine/s.??) I don't know what is going on in the AHP marketplace, and I won't speculate. The AHP guy has not been around here on the forum for a few weeks now, and he is probably the ONLY source for information that is not based on speculation. Several weeks back I sent him a very respectful PM requesting some additional information. I have not had the courtesy of a response of any sort at this time. I know he says that he spends some time in the factories in China, so it could be that he is tied up over there...... Quien Sabe?

    Since then, I have made my purchase decision (with some guidance from others..) and I personally no longer need the information. However, I am certain that there are folks here that do need it. And others who would like a few simple answers to a few simple questions....It may still be forthcoming. If and/or when I hear from him, I will post any information I receive.

    :)
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    T Tig=ThermalArc Fabricator & Everlast PowerTig 250 EX
    O OxyAcetylene=Victor 350 Series
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    Thursday, February 20 2014, 04:38 PM - #permalink
    Just talked to the second in command at AHP.

    She said the website is a wreck but she is working on it.

    Any questions or orders are being handled at 1 925 271 2021. Extension 3 for tech support.

    The guy that normally stops by here is in China till next month. He is finishing up the new model and getting the production run started.

    Can't give out any information on the new machine but it is sweet!, (or so I hear , wink wink)
    From the desk of Kevin Caron, where the answers are stranger than the questions!

    AHP Alpha Tig 200x Longevity ProMts 200 Everlast PowerTig 255EXT
    Miller Syncrowave 200 Millermatic 251
    www.kevincaron.com
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    Thursday, February 20 2014, 04:52 PM - #permalink
    Okay....so there you go..

    I trust what K-C has to say, so answers are apparently forthcoming or available at the number Kevin mentioned.

    Will never understand the reticence about the website. Sorry.....That just doesn't make sense for ANY reason. :(

    In any event, I certainly hope that everyone who needs information will see this, make contact, and get their questions answered.

    I am now, ...... Thinking Happy Thoughts....

    :)
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    T Tig=ThermalArc Fabricator & Everlast PowerTig 250 EX
    O OxyAcetylene=Victor 350 Series
    M MIG=ThermalArc Fabricator
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    Thursday, February 20 2014, 06:28 PM - #permalink
    Any chance of a complete owners manual? The pamphlet that came with it is inadequate. Hell, I'm not sure it's even English.
    Alpha TIG 200X
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    Saturday, March 01 2014, 05:05 PM - #permalink
    Anybody else notice that it appears that AHP president has same very unique last name as Everlast welders president.

    If you do a Google search for corporations on manta.com you will notice that Esfir Gladshteyn is AHP and Oleg Gladshteyn is with Everlast. They are both in San Francisco...AHP "office/corporation address is

    561 Arguello Boulevard Apartment 5
    San Francisco, CA 94118 - View Map
    Phone: (415) 613-6664


    while Everlast is

    329 Littlefield Ave
    South San Francisco, CA94080

    So what gives...is an AHP coming out of the same factory as an Everlast or is this one brother branching out with a new company?

    Either way it would seem they have a pretty good wrap on the import TIG market.;)
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    Saturday, March 01 2014, 11:24 PM - #permalink
    First I've heard of it......

    I've spoken with Everlast reps several times....Oleg nor Mark mentioned anything like that, but anything is possible I guess.

    I suspect everything will become clear at some point in the future. Don't know if it will be clear like water.....maybe more like mud.....????

    Quien Sabe??

    :)
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    T Tig=ThermalArc Fabricator & Everlast PowerTig 250 EX
    O OxyAcetylene=Victor 350 Series
    M MIG=ThermalArc Fabricator
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    Sunday, March 02 2014, 09:46 AM - #permalink
    LOL i started this thread and kinda got held back from ordering this. Im still looking to buy it just not able to at this time. And now they are working on a new machine makes me wanna hold out and see what it may have. Also maybe these will drop in price to get rid of inventory. I am a broke dick penny pincer I know LOL.
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    Sunday, March 02 2014, 01:00 PM - #permalink
    The new machine will be a lot easier to learn.

    The display only shows main amps now.

    Most of the other settings are a percentage of the main amps setting..

    Much easier in my opinion to set and run. Better software also.

    Looks almost the same, just the panel is a little different.

    I have been told that the price will go up some but still be VERY affordable.

    You should call AHP at 1 925 271 2021 for more up to date info.

    Jean is the lady I talked to. Extension 3 if I remember correctly.
    From the desk of Kevin Caron, where the answers are stranger than the questions!

    AHP Alpha Tig 200x Longevity ProMts 200 Everlast PowerTig 255EXT
    Miller Syncrowave 200 Millermatic 251
    www.kevincaron.com
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